| Total Worldwide Console Hardware Sales |
| January 17, 2005, 2:47 PM CST by sm284614 | [Updated 29/01/05] [I haven't found much data for this, but I'll keep looking]
I'm sure Steve has access to more (and more acurate) data on this, but I'll have a crack, it may be interesting to see industry mistakes made (like releasing the Jaguar, Virtual boy, or 3DO) in terms of sales figure, and how consoles today compare to those of the past. Much of the data appears to be only realy readily available in ($1000+) business reports and the like.
Total sales figures:
NES: 61,780,000 Sega Master System: 13,000,000 Nintendo Gameboy: 118,420,000 (possibly includes color?) Sega Game Gear: 8,650,000 Atari Lynx: NEC Turbografx 16: 2,500,000 (est.) NEC Turbografx CD: Sega Mega Drive (Genesis): 30,750,000 (Sega CD): 2,500,000 (North America) (Sega 32X): 50,000-200,000 (est.) NEC Supergrafx: SNK Neo Geo: Nintendo SNES: 49,020,000
Philips CDi: NEC TurboDuo: SNK Neo Geo CD: NEC PC-FX: Atari Jaguar: 10,000 (est.)
Nintendo Virtual Boy: 770,000 Gameboy Color:
Panasonic 3DO:* 700,000 (est.) Sony Playstation: 100,000,000 Sega Saturn: 9,260,000 Nintendo 64: 32,930,000
Wonderswan color: Game Boy Advance / GBA SP: 65,740,000 Nokia N-Gage: 1,300,000
Sega Dreamcast: 10,600,000 Sony Playstation 2: 81,390,000 Microsoft Xbox: 19,900,000 Nintendo Gamecube: 18,030,000
Nintendo DS: 2,840,000 Sony PSP: 510,000
* Panasonic never released any sales figures for the 3DO
Much of this data is hard to come buy (especially the things that sold badly), but I'll keep looking and fill in the blanks when I find more data. |
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| January 17, 2005, 3:29 PM CST by OG10 | | Thanks for this SM, I am sure it will provide a nice base for those doing research in the games industry field too. I can't believe the NES sold that many :p I guess I never thought they had reached that mark with that. I see that the gameboy is still ahead of the game. I wonder if new handhelds will ever see the status of the olden goldies. |
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| January 17, 2005, 9:17 PM CST by JoeBlow | | The PS2 has easily gone over 80,000,000, and I know the SNES and Genesis numbers are much closer to each other. |
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| January 18, 2005, 5:29 AM CST by sm284614 to JoeBlow | | If you have access to more recent or accurate figures, throw a link in. Many of these figures are taken from trapsing around various websites and cross-referencing all their figures to try and come up with an estimate. Worldwide, thes SNES destroyed the Mega Drive, it was onnly in the US that figures were close. |
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| January 18, 2005, 12:45 PM CST by Teragen | The Psp sold 544.304 units in Japan And the Ps2 hit the 80 million mark, the news is available at almost every major gaming site http://ps2.ign.com/articles/578/578454p1.html |
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| January 18, 2005, 1:11 PM CST by Quaid to JoeBlow | The PS2 has easily gone over 80,000,000
80,000,000 shipped to stores maybe, but perhaps not all have sold through to customers yet. and I know the SNES and Genesis numbers are much closer to each other.
Haha, no they aren't. SNES whipped Mega Drive badly, regardless of what fanboy revisionist history may try to say. Just because Genesis had a good christmas over SNES the first year or two doesn't mean the totals in the end were close. SNES caught up and beat Mega Drive handily. |
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| January 18, 2005, 2:15 PM CST by StarZapper | | Funny how despite gaming becoming so called "mainsteam" nowadays, the actual sales figures haven't changed much since the days of the nes. How about some original Atari sales? |
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| January 18, 2005, 3:40 PM CST by sm284614 to StarZapper | | Going back past the NES would be pretty difficult; there were about a million systems back then, and there's hardly any data for the list as it is. |
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| January 18, 2005, 3:46 PM CST by StarZapper | | Oh I just meant the main atari consoles, who cares about the other little shitty ones. |
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| January 29, 2005, 4:28 PM CST by Hyllian | I don't know if all this is correct, but many of then are equal to your numbers!
All shipment figures as of December 2004.
PS2 19.47m Japan 32.86m USA 29.06m Europe 81.39 Total
XB 1.70m Japan 13.20m USA 5.00m Europe 19.90m Total
GC 3.78m Japan 10.11m USA 4.13m Europe 18.02m Total
GBA 15.48m Japan 32.82m USA 17.44m Europe 65.74 Total
DS 1.45m Japan 1.36m USA 0.03m Europe 2.84m Total
PSP 0.51m Japan 0.51m Total
PS 21.13m Japan 40.78m USA 39.82m Europe 101.73m Total
N64 5.54m Japan 27.39m Other 32.93m Total
GB 32.47m Japan 86.22m Other 118.69m Total
SNES 17.15m Japan 31.87m Other 49.02m Total
NES 19.23m Japan 42.55m Other 61.78m Total
Genesis / Mega Drive 3.58m Japan 27.17m Other 30.75m Total
Saturn 5.74m Japan 3.52m Other 9.26m Total
Game Gear 1.78m Japan 6.87m Other 8.65m Total
Dreamcast 2.30m Japan 8.30m Other 10.60m Total
Totals: 118.69 GB 101.73 PS 81.39 PS2 65.74 GBA 61.78 NES 49.02 SNES 32.93 N64 30.75 Genesis 19.90 XBox 18.02 GC 10.60 DC 9.26 Saturn 8.65 Game Gear 2.84 DS 0.51 PSP
Japan: 32.47 GB 21.13 PS 19.47 PS2 19.23 NES 17.15 SNES 15.48 GBA 5.74 Saturn 5.54 N64 3.78 GC 3.58 Genesis 2.30 DC 1.78 Game Gear 1.70 XBox 1.45 DS 0.51 PSP |
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| January 29, 2005, 4:42 PM CST by Hyllian | From: http://www.virtual-boy.org/virtual%20boy.htm
Nintendo Virtual Boy: Japan 140,000 USA 630,000 Total 770,000 |
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| January 29, 2005, 10:14 PM CST by Hyllian | If you enter this site: http://www.icwhen.com/book/
You can see the history of videogames.
It says that in 1990, PC Engine sold 2.1 million in Japan and 400 mil in USA.
Besides, in 1991, it says 400,000 PC Engine were sold.
If you get this report: http://www.gbrc.jp/GBRC.files/content/PDF/GameCase.PDF
You'll see that Atari 2600 sold 10,000,000+
And you can get important numbers in the charts at the end of the document. 3DO sold at least 700,000. |
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| February 12, 2005, 12:25 AM CST by masschamber | Jaguar console sales are minimum 350,000 as that many copies of tempest 2000 where produced, I'll look for the source and 2600 is minimum 25 million worldwide, which was the figure they boasted at one ces or another |
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| February 12, 2005, 7:39 AM CST by Hellripper | The Atari was a sort of a pc wasnt it?
And the amiga came before atari 2600 of after it? |
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| June 20, 2005, 5:35 AM CST by RST to sm284614 | Great post dudes ! But... we need know the truth about the numbers of solds about...
Game Boy + Game Boy pocket Game Boy Color
Atari VCS <-- from the first generation of consoles Atari 2600 <-- From the second generation of consoles Atari 7800 <-- From the second generation of consoles
Is important because the solds about that machines are not clear !! The respective companies publish solds numbers all in 1, and that is so bad.
Regards ... |
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| June 20, 2005, 7:55 PM CST by JoeBlow to Quaid | Haha, no they aren't. SNES whipped Mega Drive badly, regardless of what fanboy revisionist history may try to say. Just because Genesis had a good christmas over SNES the first year or two doesn't mean the totals in the end were close. SNES caught up and beat Mega Drive handily.
Actually I respect both systems for the great games they each offered. It's just that a couple of years back I was talking about this topic and CS posted some info that showed the SNES had "barely" squeaked ahead in total console sales (due to Donkey Kong Country, which I bought with an SNES for my girlfriend). If these are the true numbers, so be it. I just seem to remember it being a lot closer race in which the Genny was ahead until the end. |
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| June 20, 2005, 7:59 PM CST by JoeBlow to RST | | Atari VCS and Atari 2600 are the same thing (I owned it, so I know). The second generation was the Atari 5200 (along with Colecovision and the bulky "handheld" Vectrex). The Atari 7800 came out just before the Sega Master System and NES if I recall for round #3. |
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| June 28, 2005, 7:25 AM CST by RST to JoeBlow | Yes, Atari VCS and 2600 are the same machine but both were in diferent generations. We need know the real numbers about the units solds each one, the saem to Game boy/pocket and Game boy color.
If the generation was different, the number of units solds cant be all in 1. That is soo wrong ! and so bad for Nintento for tell that numbers to show all the number of units solds about Game Boy over the others.
Imagine if Sony put all its numbers about all playstation machines.. |
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| June 28, 2005, 11:40 PM CST by nickj213 to RST | In all fairness, the Original GB, GB Pocket, and even GB color were all based off the same technology. There really wasnt any advancement aside from physical changes and the addition of color.
It's like sony putting the sales number of the Playstation and PSone together. It's because it's the same system, just with a little advancement.
That's why the GBA, GBA SP, and GBMicro will all be together. It's a GBA, just with small changes and additions.
the Playstation and playstation 2 are two completely different systems. Their power is very unequal. |
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| July 1, 2005, 1:47 PM CST by RST to nickj213 | Not, Game boy / pocket not is the same to Game Boy Color. So different hardwares in a so different generations. That sold numbers cant be all in 1. That is a so bad idea from Nintendo like all its ideas ....
About "PlayStation" machines y speak about PSX and PS2 because, yes, PSX = PSone and PS2 = PStwo. But imagine if Sony put PSX + PS2 sold numbers all in 1 !!
.... We need know that real sold numbers from Atari and Nintendo machines...
Please, someone can tell some about that numbers ? |
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| July 5, 2005, 7:25 AM CST by schlechtj to RST | | OK, I want to get this atari thing straight, I was around for the origional and have progressed with the games so hopefully you will take my word for it (I still have my pong game and 7800). The vcs and the 2600 were identical machines, sears was licenced to sell the machines and relabled them like the do washing machines so thats where we get the screw up with the names, the 2600 was the model number (cx-2600). The 5200 was the second generation and was not compatable with the 2600. The 2600 junior was the same machine as the 2600 with the same capabilities in a smaller package, like what nintendo did to the snes. The 7800 was backward compatable to the 2600 and was designed before the nes and sega master system however since atari was at that point a "computer" company, they did not release it. Only after they saw the success of the nes did they decide to release it. However, unlike the playstation 2, ps1 relationship, people saw the 7800 as a way to play their old 2600 games because by that time their 8-10 year old machine was broken and they had a huge library of 2600 game cartridges that last forever (all mine still work almost 28 years later, try saying that about ps games on cd). However this is the same relationship that the game boy color had to the game boy, it was backward compatable however had games that could not be played on the older system. (the game boy color had a faster processor that could play color only games that could not be played on the origional game boy). So, the 7800 sales figures still represented the number of people who were playing 2600 games. |
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| July 11, 2005, 6:17 AM CST by RST to schlechtj | Yes, ok .. but someone know the sales of each machine ? is important to my Hardware page...
Atari VCS in 1ST gen. Atari 2600 in 2nd gen. Game boy/pocket Game Boy Color
All the psx cds still live in the PS2 compatibility and now go to live in PS3 compatibility.. what about atari cartridges ? you not have the reason with that words you told sclechtj.
Regards |
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| July 11, 2005, 10:03 AM CST by Hawk4x4 to RST | | The Atari VCS is the Atari 2600. They are the same machine. |
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| September 11, 2005, 6:01 AM CST by RST to Hawk4x4 | Not, not is the same, because both machines go into diferent generations. The Atari VCS go to the 1st gen. and the VCS 2600 attack the 2nd gen.
All know both machines have the same hardware.. but that is not the point.
We need the number of units sold separately to know the thruth. |
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| September 11, 2005, 4:05 PM CST by kingneod to RST | | the DS has sold in excess of 6.7 million units as of September 1st |
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| September 11, 2005, 5:06 PM CST by Hawk4x4 to RST | Are you talking about the 2600 Jr.?
http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/consoles/2600/1984version_2600jr.jpg# |
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| October 21, 2005, 6:00 AM CST by RST | | Someone know if the handheld known as Gizmondo it released ? I read about 500.000 units sold in UK in the last year, is that truth ? |
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| January 5, 2006, 8:11 PM CST by nustang70 to RST | | hey RST, can i get a link to this hardware page you are creating? |
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| January 25, 2007, 11:03 PM CST by schlechtj to RST | RST we want to tell you again that the 2600 and the vcs are the SAME IDENTICAL macine with a different sticker, they came from the same manufacturing plant at the same time. That means that they are the same generation. We do not know where you are getting your information from. That would be like you buying a ps3, scratching a RST on top of it and calling it a different generation. The numbers go together. Period.
My logic for lumping in the 7800 and the 2600 is not so water tight but is still pretty sound. The difference between the ps2-ps1 and 7800-2600 is that the ps1 and ps2 did co-exist for years. If you only wanted to play your ps1 games and your ps1 broke, you could buy a psOne and you did not need to buy the more expensive ps2. People bought the ps2 to play ps2 games, backwards compatability was a distant second thought.
There was a few year gap between atari selling the 2600 and the 7800. If your 2600 broke and you wanted to play your backlog of games, the 7800 was your only choice. All the people I know who owned a 7800 did not buy it because it had the cool games, for that you bought either the sega master system or the nes.
The other clue is how many 7800 titles were available and their sales figures. There are at least 5 times as many vcs titles as there are 7800 titles, and each vcs title sold more. For instance I own about 70 2600 games and two 7800 games, and one of those came with the console. On top of that, 2600 games continued to be manufactured into the '90s many years after the 2600 was out of production, if you were a new player, you could only play them on the 7800. Again not true for the ps1-ps2 relationship. To further complicate things, there are new multi game all in one consoles (atari flashback) that run on different hardware but run the origional programs. Is it identical, no. But is it still an atari? I guess so. For a comparison, your computer today has completely different hardware from a 386 but it can still run the same software. Is it still a pc? yes.
So is an emulator on a console like atari anthology on the ps2 a ps2 game, or an atari game, or both? Hell if I know.
New 2600 cartridges are still being produced! For example the game mideviel mayham came out on dec 1 2006 and is selling for $25 new.
Cheers |
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| January 25, 2007, 11:27 PM CST by schlechtj to RST | Sorry, but I also want to try to understand what you are calling a "generation". The first home video game was the oddesy. It was a pong like game with analog circuitry, not even digital. Next came the pong games and they had 4 bit processors. The technology was different so you could call them different generations, however most people consider everything from the pong era as one generation. Atari's first hit was pong but it definatly was not a vcs. It did not have cartridges or even controllers with a button or joystick. But it definatly was a video game, and for years it was THE video game (ahhh fond memories of pong wars with my brother on a sunday morning). So the vcs (aka 2600) would go into the second generation (or third if you break up analog vs digital which is in reality a bigger jump than 8-16 bit in my opinion as an electronic engenering technician). The second generation was the first with cartridges, atari was not the first but the fairchild (ves).
When the colecovision came out, it was regarded as the next generation. But now we lump the coleco and intellivision in the same generation as the atari. The next or third generation was the nes, 7800, and master system. Even though these were 8 bit systems running at almost the same speed as gen2, they had higher resoloution, more colors, larger ram, and access to larger rom cartridges.
gen 4 - 16 bit systems (snes, genesis, neogeo) gen 5 - 32-64 bit systems (ps1, n64, saturn) gen 6 - now we just start judging by release dates. Everything released between the dreamcast and the xbox. gen 7 - everything released between the xbox 2 and the ps3.
Starting with generation 7 can we even really call them generations any more? The difference in powere between the Wii and the ps3 is at least as great as between the nes and the snes. |
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| January 25, 2007, 11:36 PM CST by thenewguy | The Atari VCS (Video Computer System) had a part number of CX-2600R and was renamed the Atari 2600 to help differentiate it from the Atari 5200, which was announced in 1982.
As schlectj indicated, the 2600 and VCS are the same system from the same generation. |
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| February 13, 2007, 8:40 PM CST by RST to schlechtj | Yes schlechtj.
Sorry for the time i got to reply. I lost this important topic link and i found it today ;)
Yes. My concept of the "generation" is by a range of years. Not byt 8 bits, 16 bits, etc. This last way is sooo wrong. Then let me tell you my idea of range of years for each generation:
We talk about domestic consoles and not about handhelds. Because the handhelds have other year ranges so different.
7ª 2005 - xxxx from Xbox 360 to xxxxxx 6ª 1998 - 2005 from Dreamcast to Gamecube 5ª 1993 - 1997 from Amiga CD-32 to Nintendo 64 4ª 1991 - 1993 from PC Engine Duo to CD-interactive 3ª 1987 - 1991 from PC Engine to Neo Geo 2ª 1982 - 1986 from Atari 2600 to Commodore 64 GS 1ª 1972 - 1981 From Odyssey to Intellivision
This is my actual idea of "how must be the console generations"
About the bad numbers about units solds i took on this topic a year ago, i got the final results for the Game Boy consoles. Because the Nintendo always do the bad way to announce these numbers and mix all the consoles in a single result. I not like that !!!
The final results, and correct, are... told in millions of units:
Game Boy + Game Boy Pocket 69,42 Game Boy Color 49,27 Game Boy Advance + SP 74,92 Game Boy Micro 1,87
But this problem happend too in the results told by Atari by the years about its consoles. Because 26 Millions of Atari VCS + 2600 is not truth. I am sure is not ! On these 26 millions sure we have the results of Atari 5200 + Atari 7800 + Atari XG. And this is a thing we must know to get the alone numbers for each console.
Understand now why i always asked about this thing ? I will post soon another big post here with all the numbers i know about all the consoles, if someone is interesting.
Regards |
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