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Blue Dragon Famitsu Score (37/40)
November 29, 2006, 2:58 AM CST by too_cool_craig
Blue Dragon - 9/9/9/10 (37/40)

Or 9.25/10

this is great, was kinda hoping for 38/40+

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4967663&postcount=127
November 29, 2006, 6:03 AM CST by Gripper to too_cool_craig
I see the retarded Wii Sports scored just 30/40.
No surprise there.
November 29, 2006, 6:08 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
Retarted to you maybe? But I see it as a good game to play with friends just like eyetoy, guitar hero and buzz.

Infact my mother said to me the other night she had seen the Wii Sports advert and wanted to give it a go.
November 29, 2006, 6:08 AM CST by Gripper
Blue Dragon has now moved up to # 2 in the Top 20 Most Wanted Japanese Console Games chart, from # 4 last week.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten3.htm
November 29, 2006, 6:09 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper
Poor woman.
Hope you warned her about the hand cramps she's gonna be getting. :)
November 29, 2006, 6:11 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
At least she wont be as bored as she would be if she picked up a boring old control and started moving some sticks around with her thumbs ;)

And the cramps your get from your personal life are not something you should speak of.
November 29, 2006, 6:16 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper
Never figured out how to use the superb 360 controls eh?
Or the the superlative XBOX Live?
Not exepecting her to understand how a kick ass game like Gears works like either.
Here's an idea, why don't you let her have one of them "Rayman Raving Rabbids" games then?
That should her her get to sleep quick whenever she's having diffculties sleeping. :)
November 29, 2006, 6:21 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
O I have figured out the 360 controls a long time ago, because its just like every other control from the last 10 years.

Gears of war?? ha, dont get me started on that over rated piece of shit. That one is going back to gamestation as instore credit to be used when I pick up my Wii on the 8th.

The fact is that the 360 just doesnt have a great game that will last you for hours on the first play. Thats what it needs, maybe Blue Dragon will give it this, Kameo tried, it was a good game but was way too short.

Wii launches with Zelda, and a forum member on here has already stated that he has spent 45 hours on it and only just finished the 6th dungeon.

If the 360 were to get more decent games I would use it more, but at the moment all I do with it is use it for DVD's! And dont say I havent had the right games... so far I have owned

Perfect dark - average
NFS:MW - Poor
Burnout Revenge - Races too short Burnout 3 is far better
Kameo - Good but way too short
Splinter Cell Double Agent - Rubbish with a capital RUB
COD2 - not as good as its PC counterpart due to controls
COD3 - No PC release so had to get 360, bad controls again but an OK game
GRAW - Poor game, traded it pretty quickly
Dead Rising - Was good for the first 10 minutes, then it got old
Gears of War - As boring a game as HALO.
November 29, 2006, 6:26 AM CST by Gripper
I see the PS 3 stil hasn't caught up with the Japanese installed base of the 360 in Japan (which I put at 170,010) either.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten.htm
http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=8272&page=18
November 29, 2006, 6:36 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper
Yeah?
This is what we'll do.
After saddling yo momma with "Rayman Raving Rabbids" , we'll then lock ya in a room, and make ya play the even more retarded "Excite Truck".

Gamespot : "Ultimately, Excite Truck feels more like a tech demo than a full-fledged game."

Rating : 6.8

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/excitetruck/review.html?sid=6161717&tag=reviews;title;2

How does Nintendo get away with dumping all this rubbish shovelware on you suckers anyways?
But hey, nothing like an eager bunch of zombies to make them march to one's commands and part from their money eh?
Let's face it, the Wii titles today are every bit as hilarious as the "Wii" name itself.
Funny console name, retarded, idiotic games.
Will you excuse me while I laugh?
November 29, 2006, 6:38 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
The Wii has a top quality game at launch in Twilight Pricess, can you name one that launched with the 360?

Thought not, excuse me while I laugh a bit....

When did I or anyone else even mention Excite Truck as a top quality game?? Never so whats your point.
November 29, 2006, 6:57 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper
Twilight Princes?
What's that? Twilight Zone?
Oh you mean that same old rehashed, recycled rubbish from Nintendo with crap bolted on graphics from the Gamecube, and that awfull sound, described by Gamespot as "really weird"?
Hey how's the terrible sound from Twilight Zone..err..Princess feel like when it comes out of the cheap and tinny speaker on the Wii Remote then eh?
I tried it at Gamsestop. Sounds terribe, distorted and poor. Gave me a headache.

Meanwhile, the 360 continues to sport by far the best games line up on next gens on the planet. And there's plenty of them really great ones too. :)
November 29, 2006, 7:00 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper

Oh you mean that same old rehashed, recycled rubbish from Nintendo with crap bolted on graphics from the Gamecube
Yeah because the 360 doesnt have more of the same old FPS games that were all over the XBOX, o wait, yes it does! All of XBOX big titles were FPS games, all of 360's big titles are FPS games, hmmmm I see a patern here?

Meanwhile, the 360 continues to sport by far the best games line up on next gens on the planet. And there's plenty of them really great ones too. :)
Can you name some as I havent been able to find any and my 360 is getting a bit dusty.
November 29, 2006, 7:01 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper
I see a pattern yeah.
All ya great games belongs to us. :)

Rayman Raving Rabbids eh?
Heh Heh!
November 29, 2006, 7:02 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
Name some of these great games?? You havent managed to convince me so far.
November 29, 2006, 7:07 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

Can you name some as I havent been able to find any and my 360 is getting a bit dusty.
Go here.
http://www.gamespot.com/special_features/giftguide06/xbox360/index.html

I can count at least 12, with ratings of 8.3 and above.
Two superb 9.6 games, and FOUR rated above 9.

Like I said, all ya great games are belong to us. :)
November 29, 2006, 7:09 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

Name some of these great games?? You havent managed to convince me so far.
Who wants to convince you?
Look, you can play Rayman Raving Rabbids all day as far as I am concerned.
Its the best punishment I can think of.
Wouldn't change it for the world :)
November 29, 2006, 7:10 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
And once again it comes down to opinion, only on the previous page I told you what I thought of most of the 360's game collection.

Stating that the 360 has the best games just doesnt work because to some people such as myself they are all pretty poor. I dont care if GOW did get a 9.6 to me its an aweful game with bad controls and bad gameplay. People spend too much time trying to look cool and agree with others and not enough actually making up their own mind about how they feel about a game. Who cares what Gamespot said, its what I think that matters to me!
November 29, 2006, 7:14 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

thought of most of the 360's game collection
Never bothered to read it..after the first line.
Hey, you are not the first dreanged guy I have seen recently, but then there is a reason they made straitjackets, and have the men in long white coats to put them on ya. :)
November 29, 2006, 7:16 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
So what you are saying is that I should follow trends and do what everyone else does or be put in a padded room?

Good to see that you have such a good outlook on life and individuals.
November 29, 2006, 7:17 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

Stating that the 360 has the best games just doesnt work because to some people such as myself they are all pretty poor.
People like yourself don't matter.
It sold millions.
The market is the ultimate judge.
That's what counts.
November 29, 2006, 7:18 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
The Wii has sold 600,000 units in one week, outselling the 360's launch...

Its the market that counts right?
November 29, 2006, 7:19 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

So what you are saying is that I should follow trends and do what everyone else does or be put in a padded room?
Naaaaah.
It should be enough to just lock you up, and give ya Rayman Raving Rabbids, with a Wiimote.
After 24 hours, the results won't be pretty.
November 29, 2006, 7:21 AM CST by Quaid to Gripper

It should be enough to just lock you up, and give ya Rayman Raving Rabbids, with a Wiimote.
After 24 hours, the results won't be pretty.
Of course. I would be pissed off if I was locked in a room with only a Wiimote and a game too. Where's the TV and the Wii?

Wouldn't you be pissed off if you were locked in a room with Gears Of War and a 360 pad, but no TV and 360 to play on?

That is like some form of torture! Only Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld would do something so sick.
November 29, 2006, 7:24 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

The Wii has sold 600,000 units in one week, outselling the 360's launch...
Still less than the XBOX in November 2001.
And that same November the PS 2 sold a million, and topped it up with another 2 million in December alone.
Not to mention the 360 had severe shortage problems in 2005, same as the PS 3 does today. #60 could have sold millions more with enough supplies.
Still sold more than the PS 3 did this month though.
But I am sure you knew all that alreadyy.

Its the market that counts right?
Always trust the market.
Gimme a call when the Wii sells 110 million like the PS 2 did.
November 29, 2006, 7:25 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper

Still less than the XBOX in November 2001.
And that same November the PS 2 sold a million, and topped it up with another 2 million in December alone.
Not to mention the 360 had severe shortage problems in 2005, same as the PS 3 does today. #60 could have sold millions more with enough supplies.
Still sold more than the PS 3 did this month though.
But I am sure you knew all that alreadyy.
Stop making excuses, the Wii launch outsold the 360 launch, its the market that counts!
November 29, 2006, 7:26 AM CST by Gripper to Quaid

Where's the TV and the Wii?
You Ninenbots need a TV and a Wii, when they they lock you up in the nuthouse?
Might not be too safe you know.
November 29, 2006, 7:27 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

Stop making excuses, the Wii launch outsold the 360 launch, its the market that counts!
Naaah.
What counts is the 360 today has sold over 7 million, and the Wii has sold just 600,000. We own you 10 times over.
You are not even on the same planet.
November 29, 2006, 7:29 AM CST by Suckattack
So 37/40 isn't bad, right? Especially considering it's on the X360? One of the most hated consoles in Japan? Perhaps this game and others like it will lead the trend in Japan. Let's hope.
November 29, 2006, 7:31 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper
But when comparing the first week of Wii sales to the first week of 360 sales, (which is the fairest and most logical way to do things as we cant compare something that has been out a year longer to another), the Wii sold more.

Now if it continues in each week to sell more than the 360 did in its corresponding weeks then in time the Wii will catch up even with the 360's year long lead.

Its the market that counts!
November 29, 2006, 7:32 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Suckattack

So 37/40 isn't bad, right? Especially considering it's on the X360? One of the most hated consoles in Japan?
I truly hope so, the 360 has needed a good long adventure for a while now.
November 29, 2006, 7:32 AM CST by Gripper to Suckattack

So 37/40 isn't bad, right? Especially considering it's on the X360? One of the most hated consoles in Japan?
I think its a pretty good sign.
There are a few more great exclusives for the 360 in Japan, coming in the next couple of years.
If the 360 ends up selling more than a million in Japan, I am not going to complain to much about it.
November 29, 2006, 7:36 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

But when comparing the first week of Wii sales to the first week of 360 sales, (which is the fairest and most logical way to do things as we cant compare something that has been out a year longer to another), the Wii sold more.
Yes.
But last year is last year, and we are now in 2006.
It's gonna come down to who sells more this year, who has more great games, more great exclusives, and who ends up with the biggest installed base at the end of the year.
The 360 is going to come out on top in all of that.
Heck the 360 even has a bigger stalled base even in Japan, than the PS 3 as at today.
November 29, 2006, 7:38 AM CST by one_grim_reaper to Gripper

Heck the 360 even has a bigger stalled base even in Japan, than the PS 3 as at today
And what is going to happen when the Wii launches there later this week? The 360 is going to be left for dead, sales might even slow down.
November 29, 2006, 7:45 AM CST by Gripper to one_grim_reaper

The 360 is going to be left for dead,
360 sales are going to get a nice lift when Blue Dragon comes out in December, Wii or no Wii.

sales might even slow down.
Funny you should say that.
The PS 3 launch never affacted 360 sales by much.
If anything it seemed to have affected PS2 and PSP sales for some reason (they both went down below 20K).

http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=8272&page=26

Wii launch might affect the Gamecube sales though.
They may sell even less than their normal 500. :)
November 29, 2006, 7:50 AM CST by Suckattack
Anyway, since you guys veered off topic from the thread at hand, here's 1-up's take on this whole mess:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155480
November 29, 2006, 8:40 AM CST by sebasxox to Suckattack
Does anyone know when blue dragon will be out in the US and Europe?
November 29, 2006, 12:37 PM CST by khaid
I think this thread has proved that every thread in this forum will be the same ol same ol console > console thread regardless of topic. yawn
November 29, 2006, 2:11 PM CST by Quaid to khaid
So true.

The insecure little Xbots ruin every thread. But it's great entertainment.
November 29, 2006, 3:43 PM CST by superSONIC
Wow. I wonder if this got binned because Gripper takes 8 posts to reply to one?
November 29, 2006, 3:55 PM CST by mizzle to superSONIC
I dont think he's figured out that the thread is posted underneath the reply box. So he keeps reposting and reposting. Either that or he wants a huge post count.
November 29, 2006, 3:55 PM CST by chairmansteve to superSONIC
It got binned because I only allow one troll/flame/nonsense thread to be active at a time. I'll be binning How Did Nintendo pwnt Sony and MS So Easily? later, after people are done shouting and wasting space.
November 29, 2006, 4:36 PM CST by mizzle to chairmansteve
mizzle was kinda wondering at the lack of the mass midnight deletions in that thread. It actually surprised me to see posts still standing the next morning.
November 29, 2006, 11:56 PM CST by khaid to Quaid
Both sides have their fair share of trolls.. and people keep on biting on the troll baits. But Gripper is truly frowned upon with this thread. A fricken thread about a X360 game that has potential to move X360 consoles in Japan.. and he goes ahead and throws out his troll bait and ruins a thread about a console he supports. GOOD JOB JACK.
November 30, 2006, 1:15 AM CST by Quaid to khaid
Damn Gripper. He's flushing PVC down the tubes again.
November 30, 2006, 7:42 AM CST by Bullet_Bill to chairmansteve
Hey that thread has 3500+ views in less than a week. The fans like it!
December 1, 2006, 10:37 PM CST by mizzle to Bullet_Bill
CS is a lot like Nintendo. Its not always about what the fans want.
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